So dm6 is a bad map, but all of you clowns think t9 is a good map (god forbid, t7 as well?)

Seeing as I won't be playing I could care less, but by all means, drop a map which has been played around the world for years, in competitions no doubt, producing some of the best matches in quake3's history, I mean, go nuts!

So far the people who have been attacking dm6 are fucking shit, so how about we have some informed discussion from people who enjoy playing the map because they like what it offers.

I don't even like t4 that much but in terms of balance it's year ahead (or behind, lol!) the fucking shit that ID have produced.

In conclusion, this thread is shit.

quoted for pure dose of reality, fuck off if you don't want a here here.

Piss off t4 because it's dogshit.

Don't see a reason not to follow the ESL map list, especially with rumours of IEM in Australia!

These six maps are the best we have available for dueling in quake live atm and I personally love all of them.

I think the reason for some of the more emotional responses so far is that some people are getting the wrong idea - that we are here to weed out the 'obviously' bad map in the list. The trick is to remember that all of these are actually good maps, but unfortunately we need an odd number of maps to run a proper tournament, meaning that one of them will have to be dropped.

Which leaves us with two choices - play the same five maps that were chosen in the most recent international competition/s, or create our own list of five.

My vote is to create our own list, but keep in mind which map was dropped and make sure that it can't be dropped in the next tournament and so on. Just cycle them.

I figure sooner or later id software has got to add another good duel map (hub..) which would then bring the total map list to the ideal number of seven.

PS. Yes I think that ca2 is/was a bad map.

I quite like T4 and CA2, however CA2 can get very cagey and slow.

T4 you can get some exciting games happening due to lack of armor and the fact the game can change with 1 rail shot but from a competitive stand point this probably isn't a good thing.
T9 I despise the teleporter game however it's good to have something fresh.

tl;dr
Concur with others thoughts as to comply with international rulesets.

it's done mate

T4 is terrible.

im am sad no t4 and almost lost
t4 may not be as competitive/test of skills etc w/e but it sure has exciting matches